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The Independent
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- The Independent
Gender row nurse ‘wanted to post bacon through mosque letterbox', tribunal told
A gender critical nurse allegedly told colleagues that she 'wanted to post bacon through the letterbox of a mosque', a tribunal has heard. Nurse Sandie Peggie was suspended after she complained about having to share a changing room with transgender medic Dr Beth Upton at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy, Fife, on Christmas Eve 2023. She was placed on special leave after Dr Upton made an allegation of bullying and harassment, and cited concerns about ' patient care '. Ms Peggie has lodged a claim against NHS Fife and Dr Upton, citing the Equality Act 2010, including sexual harassment; harassment related to a protected belief; indirect discrimination; and victimisation. On Monday, the tribunal also heard that Ms Peggie's legal team were contacted at the weekend by a witness who shared her objections over sharing a changing room with Dr Upton and 'found the courage to come forward'. The team had also been contacted by another potential witness. Ms Peggie's barrister, Naomi Cunningham, described the case as 'extraordinary', and 'the first case in which the practical working out of the implications of For Women Scotland judgment will have to be addressed in relation to single-sex spaces'. She said that the way Ms Peggie had been treated by NHS Fife had 'frightened off' other potential witnesses who shared her views, and that the nurse 'has been the only one to find the courage to speak up' until a new witness came forward. Ms Cunningham said: 'The truth is, we have known of many others. Ms Peggie's evidence is … lots of people agree. The difficulty is persuading anyone to come forward and tell the tribunal. That difficulty is because of the price of speaking up on these issues in NHS Fife.' She added: 'To this point she has been the single individual; there have been many, but she has been the only one to find the courage to speak up.' On Monday, emergency nurse practitioner Fiona Wishart, who has worked for NHS Fife for 41 years, told the tribunal she heard Ms Peggie making 'derogatory' remarks about Dr Upton at a lunch on September 4 2023, and making 'offensive' comments about a mosque being built in the town, the tribunal heard. Ms Wishart said: 'I was at a lunch with fellow colleagues. Sandie had made remarks about Beth at the lunch, derogatory remarks.' She said she had forgotten details but was told the comments were 'weirdo', 'freak' and 'it', although she also said those terms were not used at the lunch, the tribunal heard. Ms Wishart said: 'I've heard her make derogatory remarks regarding people of other ethnic origins and people of other sexual orientations… referring to people as 'immigrants who need to go back to their own country', and 'come over here to steal our jobs'. 'These are opinions that don't align with mine.' Ms Wishart said that at the same lunch, Ms Peggie had commented on a new mosque being built in Fife, and 'made reference to the fact she had a good mind to post bacon through their letterbox', the tribunal heard. Ms Wishart added: 'I specifically remember it because I found it offensive.' Counsel for both respondents, Jane Russell KC, said: 'When she said that, how did others respond?' Ms Wishart said: 'I can't remember, but she made derogatory remarks about Beth, and my colleague that was at the lunch, Lindsey Nicoll, responded, but I cant remember what she said.' Ms Russell asked: 'Did it go beyond 'weirdo', 'freak', and 'it'?' The witness said: 'No, I don't think so.' The tribunal continues.
Sky News
22-07-2025
- Health
- Sky News
Consultant believed dispute over female changing room 'was hate incident', Sandie Peggie tribunal told
A consultant who helped fill in a report following a dispute between nurse Sandie Peggie and transgender doctor Beth Upton said she "believed it was a hate incident" and considered getting police involved, a tribunal has heard. Ms Peggie was suspended after she objected to having to share a female changing room with Dr Upton at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy on Christmas Eve 2023. She was placed on special leave after the doctor made an allegation of bullying and harassment and cited concerns about "patient care". Ms Peggie has lodged a claim against NHS Fife and Dr Upton, citing the Equality Act 2010, including sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. On Tuesday, Dr Kate Searle, a consultant in emergency medicine, told the tribunal that Dr Upton was "very open" about their trans status during a job interview, and had been out for around a year in August 2023. Dr Searle said that she had known Ms Peggie during her 11-year career at NHS Fife but was unaware of her gender critical views. She said she had asked Dr Upton "if she was happy using female changing rooms" in August 2023 during an induction and "didn't make any other suggestions". Dr Searle said she emailed equality lead Isla Bumba on 8 December 2023 to ask if NHS Fife had a policy to support transgender staff but was told it did not. On her return to work on 29 December 2023, Dr Searle read an email from Dr Elspeth Pitt regarding an "upsetting interaction with another member of staff" and an email from Dr Upton from Christmas Day, alleging Ms Peggie had told her "she can't be in the female changing room, it's wrong and lots of others feel this way" and "she continued to tell me she is intimidated, she told me women have a right to feel safe", and made a comment about "prisons". Dr Searle said: "To me that was likening the situation to the Isla Bryson case that was very well publicised. Isla Bryson was a convicted rapist who was housed temporarily in a female prison." She said she was "very concerned" and "knew there wasn't an NHS Fife policy", adding that "according to the hate incident policy it is verbal harassment". Dr Searle said she had a meeting with Dr Upton at 5pm who was "shaken and distressed", and they completed a Datix internal report together. Dr Searle said: "We discussed reporting the incident to the police as that's again what is recommended in NHS Fife policy. "Beth said she would think about it, we looked at her shift patterns to see when she was next due to be in and if she felt safe to do that." She told the tribunal Dr Upton mentioned two other alleged incidents with Ms Peggie. In one it was alleged that Ms Peggie was undertaking nursing observations (obs) in a resuscitation unit, with Dr Searle saying she was told: "When Beth walked in Ms Peggie left. Beth said 'do you want me to finish doing obs?' "Ms Peggie said 'you can finish doing them yourself', and left the room." Another alleged incident was said to have involved a patient in a suspected mental health crisis leaving. Dr Searle said that when Dr Upton went to look for Ms Peggie, the nurse "would only speak to her through another member of nursing staff". She added: "That would make me somewhat concerned for patient safety; in our team we need to communicate very well between ourselves to ensure patient safety." Dr Searle said she had spoken to the healthcare worker, adding: "I asked if she recalled the situation and she was concerned about getting involved in any discussions about the incident because she said 'I am mixed race and I am worried about getting involved in this for my own safety'." Counsel for both respondents, Jane Russell KC, asked: "What do you think she meant?" Dr Searle replied that the case had a "lot of press attention", adding: "Any staff being involved in the case have felt under scrutiny and concerned that their views will be widely publicised when they wouldn't otherwise."
The Independent
21-07-2025
- Health
- The Independent
Dispute between Sandie Peggie and transgender doctor posed ‘no risk to patients'
A dispute between a gender critical nurse and a transgender doctor was treated as a claim and counter-claim disagreement by a manager tasked with a suspension review who found there was no risk to patients, a tribunal heard. Nurse Sandie Peggie was suspended after she complained about having to share a changing room with trans medic Dr Beth Upton at the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy, Fife, on Christmas Eve 2023. She was placed on special leave and then suspended after Dr Upton made an allegation of bullying and harassment and cited concerns about 'patient care'. Ms Peggie has lodged a claim against NHS Fife and Dr Upton, citing the Equality Act 2010, including sexual harassment; harassment related to a protected belief; indirect discrimination; and victimisation. The tribunal resumed in Dundee on July 16 after an initial set of hearings in February. On Monday at the tribunal, service manager Lottie Myles said she perceived the dispute which led to Ms Peggie being suspended as a 'she said/she said' situation, and there was 'nobody who could provide evidence'. Ms Myles said she was tasked with conducting a suspension review on February 27 2024, and was told by the nurse's manager, Esther Davidson, that Ms Peggie was 'anti-trans', and 'had transphobic views because of an incident that occurred in the changing room'. She said that Ms Davidson alleged Ms Peggie had 'some gender critical beliefs, and some other beliefs which she has which may not be everybody's belief', an hour before a suspension review meeting, but Ms Myles said she was not given any documentation to examine prior to the review. During the tribunal, counsel for NHS Fife, Jane Russell KC, asked about these 'other beliefs'. Ms Myles said: 'There was views that Sandie was homophobic and there were elements of racism in her beliefs. It's hearsay. I try to disregard views which haven't been documented or there's little evidence of.' She noted that Ms Peggie referred to Dr Upton using 'male terminology', but said that she believed Ms Peggie's feelings about Dr Upton were 'circumstantial', and later challenged why allegations she branded 'hearsay' had not been documented or escalated, the tribunal heard. Ms Russell said: 'Arising out of this meeting, what was your opinion about how Sandie Peggie really felt about Dr Upton?' The witness said: 'I think Sandie probably wasn't too happy with Dr Upton but I think that was more from the incident which had happened. In summary notes, I had asked if she was to treat a patient who was transgender, would she treat them differently? 'I was reassured she said she wouldn't treat anyone trans differently; I felt that it was circumstantial.' Ms Russell asked for the witness's views on how Ms Peggie 'might deal with transgender patients' after a suspension review meeting on March 7 2024. Ms Myles said: 'I felt reassured she wouldn't treat them differently. Sandie has been a nurse for 30 years, I'm sure in that time she has dealt with transgender patients. I felt there were no safety concerns.' She said she referred to the Nursing and Midwifery Council code, including on freedom of expression, and the Equality Act 2010 which she described as a 'grey area in a lot of workplaces', and said there were 'several reasons' why she lifted the suspension, the tribunal heard. Ms Myles said: 'I wanted to be sure I wouldn't be treating either party in breach of the Equality Act. I wanted to have Dr Upton and Sandie Peggie treated fairly and equally.' She said that a meeting between herself, Ms Peggie and Royal College of Nursing rep Stuart Fraser was 'very difficult' and 'emotional' for Ms Peggie, who was determined to return to the Emergency Department rather than be moved to another department managed by Ms Myles, the tribunal heard. Ms Myles said: 'I wanted both parties to be treated fairly and equally. The situation was 'she said/ she said', we were limited on witnesses and things being documented.' The witness said that a return to work would be 'beneficial' for Ms Peggie, and that she wanted to 'make it as seamless as possible', after discussions about moving departments and moving onto dayshifts were both rejected, the tribunal heard. Giving evidence, Ms Myles said she was aware of reports of 'negative interactions', which she branded 'hearsay'. Ms Myles said: 'I actually challenged that by saying: 'Why wasn't this documented? Why wasn't it escalated?' Nobody could confirm, but I felt that was hearsay. I felt that to try to prevent any other allegations from happening having a senior team member on duty would be supportive for her.' She said it was agreed to put the pair on 'opposite shifts' and for Ms Peggie to be supervised during a phased return, describing it as a 'compromise', the tribunal heard. Ms Myles said that her involvement ceased around April 19 at the request of head of nursing Gillian Malone, and she had no role in the investigation. The tribunal continues.
Sky News
21-07-2025
- Health
- Sky News
Dispute between nurse Sandie Peggie and transgender doctor Beth Upton posed 'no risk to patients'
A dispute between a gender critical nurse and a transgender doctor was treated as a claim and counter-claim disagreement by a manager tasked with a suspension review who found there was no risk to patients, a tribunal has heard. Nurse Sandie Peggie was suspended after she objected to having to share a changing room with Dr Beth Upton at the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy, Fife, on Christmas Eve 2023. Ms Peggie was placed on special leave and then suspended after the doctor made an allegation of bullying and harassment and cited concerns about "patient care". Ms Peggie has lodged a claim against NHS Fife and Dr Upton, citing the Equality Act 2010, including sexual harassment; harassment related to a protected belief; indirect discrimination; and victimisation. Service manager Lottie Myles told the tribunal on Monday she perceived the dispute which led to Ms Peggie being suspended as a "she said/she said" situation, and there was "nobody who could provide evidence". Ms Myles said she was tasked with conducting a suspension review on 27 February 2024, and was told by the nurse's manager, Esther Davidson, that Ms Peggie was "anti-trans" and "had transphobic views because of an incident that occurred in the changing room". She said Ms Davidson alleged Ms Peggie had "some gender critical beliefs" alongside others that "may not be everybody's belief", an hour before a suspension review meeting. However, Ms Myles said she was not given any documentation to examine prior to the review. Jane Russell KC, counsel for NHS Fife, asked about these "other beliefs". Ms Myles said: "There was views that Sandie was homophobic and there were elements of racism in her beliefs. It's hearsay. I try to disregard views which haven't been documented or there's little evidence of." She noted Ms Peggie referred to Dr Upton using "male terminology", but said she believed Ms Peggie's feelings about Dr Upton were "circumstantial", and later challenged why allegations she branded "hearsay" had not been documented or escalated. Ms Myles said: "I think Sandie probably wasn't too happy with Dr Upton, but I think that was more from the incident which had happened. "In summary notes, I had asked if she was to treat a patient who was transgender, would she treat them differently. I was reassured she said she wouldn't treat anyone trans differently; I felt that it was circumstantial." Ms Russell asked for Ms Myles's views on how Ms Peggie "might deal with transgender patients" after a suspension review meeting on 7 March 2024. Ms Myles replied: "I felt reassured she wouldn't treat them differently. Sandie has been a nurse for 30 years, I'm sure in that time she has dealt with transgender patients. I felt there were no safety concerns." She said she referred to the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC) code, including on freedom of expression, and the Equality Act 2010 which she described as a "grey area in a lot of workplaces", and said there were "several reasons" why she lifted the suspension. Ms Myles said: "I wanted to be sure I wouldn't be treating either party in breach of the Equality Act. I wanted to have Dr Upton and Sandie Peggie treated fairly and equally." She said a meeting between herself, Ms Peggie and Royal College of Nursing (RCN) representative Stuart Fraser was "very difficult" and "emotional" for Ms Peggie, who was determined to return to the emergency department rather than be moved to another department managed by Ms Myles. Ms Myles said: "I wanted both parties to be treated fairly and equally. The situation was 'she said/she said', we were limited on witnesses and things being documented." Ms Myles said a return to work would be "beneficial" for Ms Peggie, and that she wanted to "make it as seamless as possible", after discussions about moving departments and moving on to dayshifts were both rejected. Ms Myles said she was aware of reports of "negative interactions", which she branded "hearsay". She said: "I actually challenged that by saying, 'why wasn't this documented? Why wasn't it escalated?' "Nobody could confirm, but I felt that was hearsay. I felt that to try to prevent any other allegations from happening, having a senior team member on duty would be supportive for her." Ms Myles said it was agreed to put the pair on "opposite shifts" and for Ms Peggie to be supervised during a phased return, describing it as a "compromise". Ms Myles said her involvement ceased around 19 April at the request of head of nursing Gillian Malone, and she had no role in the investigation.
Yahoo
21-07-2025
- Health
- Yahoo
Dispute between Sandie Peggie and transgender doctor posed ‘no risk to patients'
A dispute between a gender critical nurse and a transgender doctor was treated as a claim and counter-claim disagreement by a manager tasked with a suspension review who found there was no risk to patients, a tribunal heard. Nurse Sandie Peggie was suspended after she complained about having to share a changing room with trans medic Dr Beth Upton at the Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy, Fife, on Christmas Eve 2023. She was placed on special leave and then suspended after Dr Upton made an allegation of bullying and harassment and cited concerns about 'patient care'. Ms Peggie has lodged a claim against NHS Fife and Dr Upton, citing the Equality Act 2010, including sexual harassment; harassment related to a protected belief; indirect discrimination; and victimisation. The tribunal resumed in Dundee on July 16 after an initial set of hearings in February. On Monday at the tribunal, service manager Lottie Myles said she perceived the dispute which led to Ms Peggie being suspended as a 'she said/she said' situation, and there was 'nobody who could provide evidence'. Ms Myles said she was tasked with conducting a suspension review on February 27 2024, and was told by the nurse's manager, Esther Davidson, that Ms Peggie was 'anti-trans', and 'had transphobic views because of an incident that occurred in the changing room'. She said that Ms Davidson alleged Ms Peggie had 'some gender critical beliefs, and some other beliefs which she has which may not be everybody's belief', an hour before a suspension review meeting, but Ms Myles said she was not given any documentation to examine prior to the review. During the tribunal, counsel for NHS Fife, Jane Russell KC, asked about these 'other beliefs'. Ms Myles said: 'There was views that Sandie was homophobic and there were elements of racism in her beliefs. It's hearsay. I try to disregard views which haven't been documented or there's little evidence of.' She noted that Ms Peggie referred to Dr Upton using 'male terminology', but said that she believed Ms Peggie's feelings about Dr Upton were 'circumstantial', and later challenged why allegations she branded 'hearsay' had not been documented or escalated, the tribunal heard. Ms Russell said: 'Arising out of this meeting, what was your opinion about how Sandie Peggie really felt about Dr Upton?' The witness said: 'I think Sandie probably wasn't too happy with Dr Upton but I think that was more from the incident which had happened. In summary notes, I had asked if she was to treat a patient who was transgender, would she treat them differently? 'I was reassured she said she wouldn't treat anyone trans differently; I felt that it was circumstantial.' Ms Russell asked for the witness's views on how Ms Peggie 'might deal with transgender patients' after a suspension review meeting on March 7 2024. Ms Myles said: 'I felt reassured she wouldn't treat them differently. Sandie has been a nurse for 30 years, I'm sure in that time she has dealt with transgender patients. I felt there were no safety concerns.' She said she referred to the Nursing and Midwifery Council code, including on freedom of expression, and the Equality Act 2010 which she described as a 'grey area in a lot of workplaces', and said there were 'several reasons' why she lifted the suspension, the tribunal heard. Ms Myles said: 'I wanted to be sure I wouldn't be treating either party in breach of the Equality Act. I wanted to have Dr Upton and Sandie Peggie treated fairly and equally.' She said that a meeting between herself, Ms Peggie and Royal College of Nursing rep Stuart Fraser was 'very difficult' and 'emotional' for Ms Peggie, who was determined to return to the Emergency Department rather than be moved to another department managed by Ms Myles, the tribunal heard. Ms Myles said: 'I wanted both parties to be treated fairly and equally. The situation was 'she said/ she said', we were limited on witnesses and things being documented.' The witness said that a return to work would be 'beneficial' for Ms Peggie, and that she wanted to 'make it as seamless as possible', after discussions about moving departments and moving onto dayshifts were both rejected, the tribunal heard. Giving evidence, Ms Myles said she was aware of reports of 'negative interactions', which she branded 'hearsay'. Ms Myles said: 'I actually challenged that by saying: 'Why wasn't this documented? Why wasn't it escalated?' Nobody could confirm, but I felt that was hearsay. I felt that to try to prevent any other allegations from happening having a senior team member on duty would be supportive for her.' She said it was agreed to put the pair on 'opposite shifts' and for Ms Peggie to be supervised during a phased return, describing it as a 'compromise', the tribunal heard. Ms Myles said that her involvement ceased around April 19 at the request of head of nursing Gillian Malone, and she had no role in the investigation. The tribunal continues.
